US Vice President J.D. Vance responded to criticism from podcast host Joe Rogan after Rogan described supporters of Donald Trump’s Make America Great Again movement as “fools” and “ignorant.”The exchange, which unfolded on separate podcasts this week, showed how far apart Rogan and the administration have become, particularly over issues such as immigration policy, the war with Iran and the handling of the Epstein dossier, with Rogan publicly criticizing the president and federal agencies rather than offering the broad support he once did.
Rogan made the remarks at a conference An episode with Joe Roganreleased on Thursday, March 26, in an interview with comedian and political commentator Dave Smith. The podcast, widely considered the most listened to podcast in the United States, according to Spotify, has increasingly become a space for Rogan to criticize the Trump administration. When discussing the MAGA movement, Rogan said: “It’s a terrible phrase… ‘Make America Great Again,’ and then it becomes a movement of a bunch of damn fools, because a lot of them are fools.” He went a step further, distinguishing between what he called his true supporters and others he was more critical of: “A lot of them are just really weird, boring, ignorant people who have things they stand for, and a lot of them are just real patriots and they’re all lumped into that group and you have to accept these fools as well? F that.” Rogan’s remarks came amid a broader conversation in which he criticized U.S. military action against Iran, describing the situation as a “cluster” and suggesting it went against campaign promises to avoid foreign conflicts. in a separate plot Two weeks ago, Rogan told independent journalist Michael Shellenberger: “It seems so crazy based on what he campaigned on… I mean, that’s why a lot of people feel betrayed, right? He ran on ‘no more wars, an end to these stupid, senseless wars,’ and then we couldn’t even really clearly define why we were doing it.”
Rogan previously supported Donald Trump in the 2024 election but has since adopted a more critical tone. In recent episodes, he has questioned the government’s approach to immigration enforcement, arguing that raids can target individuals without serious criminal records and saying the issue is more complex than simple deportation numbers. He also criticized the handling of the Epstein dossier and expressed concern about what he saw as increasingly aggressive or militarized policies, marking a significant shift from his previous support.
Vance responded to Rogen’s comments during appearance bennie show Saturday, March 28, hosted by conservative commentator Benny Johnson.When the vice president was asked “how he felt about Rogan’s comments” and whether he “thought he was a fool,” Vance dismissed the criticism but stopped short of outright rejecting the premise. “I think we have many, many fewer fools than the far left, but everyone has some fools,” he said. “We love our nerds. We love our cool kids. We love anyone who wants to save the country.” Johnson also pressed Vance on Rogen’s claims, which were made in another episode With former U.S. Army Chief Warrant Officer Bill Thompsonformer President Barack Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were “better at deporting people than Trump.” Vance said he didn’t see the comment directly but flatly rejected it: “I didn’t see Joe say that. I’m going to text Joe because it’s absolutely wrong.” He went on to defend the administration’s immigration record: “If you look at the numbers from the Obama administration or any other administration, they’ve done less than one-tenth of what we’ve done. So Joe is wrong on that, we were the best administration in the history of the United States at deporting illegal aliens. The problem is we also followed the worst administration’s lead in letting them in. So there’s still a lot of work to be done.” Vance added that the administration was now focused on reversing what he said was the impact of President Joe Biden’s policies: “We’re bringing the massive numbers of people that Joe Biden led into our country and then taking them out.”
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